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The Protocols of the Elders of Feminism

Long before the internet there were hate speech and conspiracy theories. One of the longest lasting is the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Produced in pre revolutionary Russia it is a vile cess pit of  antisemitism that has been used by bigots from Henry Ford to Hitler as evidence for their hatred of the Jews. Antisemitism has a long, inglorious history, the protocols were written downs though and this always seems to be more powerful. At the other end of the spectrum if Martin Luther has not written down his proclamations it is doubtful they would have sparked a fire that swept through Europe.

The written word has a power, and when people look for a defense of their belief being able to cite texts matters.  We have not moved very far from the pre reformation Europe where the Bible had to be untranslated because the words themselves were sacred. The protocols are still out there being passed around internet forums, cited as proof and evidence of a conspiracy that only exists in the minds of those who thrive on hate.

Once people know  a text is designed to spread hate, mention of them means you can be dismissed. Use them as the basis for your theories and no discussion is needed, I do not need to consider your view-point or listen to it. You are outside the acceptable parameters of debate, and can be ignored.  It isn’t silencing, or censorship, simply and acknowledgement that certain beliefs, certain tracts are unworthy of airtime, need to be smothered from  the oxygen of publicity they so desperately crave.

Which brings me to the fights you may have seen on twitter around feminists (or so they claim) who refuse to dismiss terfs. These women troll, harass, insult and dox trans women, but apparently that is just them expressing an opinion.  Opinions that encourages hatred and violence, opinions which any moral or ethical person would turn away from with disgust, opinions that should make someone as unacceptable as someone citing the protocols as proof of a jewish conspiracy.

On Tuesday Alison Boydell founder of @misogyny_online will be speaking at a conference on cyber stalking and harassment organised by womans Aid. Despite the fact she happily associates  with rampantly transphobic women who have harrassed trans women on twitter over and over again. (They are also massively anti sex work, and influence policy in their day jobs, but that is a topic that I will explore more elsewhere) Her time line is a list of UK transphobes, all of whom I have witnessed attack trans women on twitter. They have also been pretty nasty to me, but I am used to being called a pimp and a man. Is this someone who should be speaking at a conference about abuse on the internet? Or is this not a case for treatment just as we would an anti Semitic  conspiracy theorist, ignoring them and denying them  publicity?

I have been cyber stalked, it was horrific, I spent days afraid to leave the house, days when I could not stop crying, I was afraid to answer the phone or turn on the computer. I am not a rich white feminist with a media platform though, I got through it with the support of good people who kept me going. and came out the other side stronger, and more determined to fight for those who face the same online.

The conference by Womens Aid is a good, much-needed event. I know, I was that scared, shaking, sobbing woman. However by inviting Alison Boydell and @Misogony _Online they are making clear that only some cyber harassment matters, that only some women’s pain is real, that only some tears are dried by the feminists.

When you write something it stays, it is referred too, it is used as evidence, it adds to a culture, be it one of love or of hate. I ask that Womens Aid reconsider which culture they belong to, one that speaks love to other women, or one that spreads hate? The only way to deal with the hate of the transphobes is to turn our backs on them, as we would on an anti-Semite. On Tuesday they are being given a platform, and that breaks my heart.

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39 comments on “The Protocols of the Elders of Feminism

  1. Slutocrat
    August 30, 2013

    “I am not a rich white feminist with a media platform though, I got through it with the support of good people who kept me going. and came out the other side stronger” ❤ Tee Hee.

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  2. Feminist
    August 31, 2013

    Oh fuck off.

    Seriously.

    Stop silencing women who are actively trying to end male violence.

    Actually do something.

    Be an activist.

    Stop sitting on your fucking computer complaining.

    Stop being divisive.

    Stop bullying.

    If you care about women and online stalking then go out there and start your own website about online stalking.

    DO SOMETHING!!!!!

    No wonder men, and sadly a lot of women, see feminism as some big joke.

    Complaining on the internet about feminists who aren’t your ‘brand’ of feminist is a fucking waste of time. All you are doing is hindering the liberation of women from male violence, you know this, right?

    If Alison was openly transphobic I *might* understand your point, but she is not. She is a woman who is trying to help other women. You? You are a pathetic, moaning little bullying brat. You are a joke. You are not an activist.

    YOU ARE A BULLY.

    THIS IS BULLYING.

    THIS IS HATEFUL.

    YOU ARE HATEFUL.

    I actually think this boils down to jealousy. You are jealous that you are not being given a platform. But who would give a hateful, argumentative, divisive bully a platform? Certainly not a charity which is actively helping women – something you know nothing about.

    Actually, the most hilarious thing is you are the biggest hypocrite I’ve ever had the misfortune to meet. You talk about these radical feminists doxing people and encouraging violence when I have seen you do the exact fucking same!

    This is schoolyard shit. GROW THE FUCK UP.

    Women are being raped, abused, tortured, mutilated and murdered by men but you want to have a strop because a woman follows someone you don’t like on Twitter?

    You really are such a fucking child.

    I am seriously done with ever listening to anything you ever have to say and I sincerely hope that Women’s Aid pay your drivel no mind.

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    • jemima2013
      August 31, 2013

      Hi cath the things i do like founding everyday whorephobia supporting sex workers in real life, offering counseling and travelling to be with those margenlised women u ignore obviously don’t count.
      That u think it is about ppl i don’t like says it all…you didn’t read a single word, if you are friends with bigots you are the problem.

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      • anonymous radical feminist
        September 1, 2013

        i like how you’ve just assumed that the person writing that comment is cathy brennan. as if she’s ever been afraid to put her name next to what she wants to say.

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        • jemima2013
          September 1, 2013

          There is more than one cath in the world…and the person making assumptions is you 🙂

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      • aformersexworker
        September 1, 2013

        I would love to believe that the only person using that particular brand of hatespeech is Cathy Brennan, but sadly, I must face the fact that there are many more just as vicious, hypocritical and toxic.

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    • aformersexworker
      September 1, 2013

      Feminist…you are a bit mixed up aren’t you?

      I know more about the enthusiastic participation of feminists in general and Women’s Aid in particular in the bullying abuse, then later cyber-bullying and cyber-abuse as and when it suits them…

      …and yes it *IS* hurtful and degrading to hear them going on about how much they do to “protect” people from the very things that, in truth, they do themselves ALL the time.

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    • Nun Ya (@Ishfery)
      September 1, 2013

      What do you consider “real” doing something?

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    • Sundazed
      September 3, 2013

      Couldn’t agree more.

      These claims of radfems being “phobic” that some transexuals are complaining about (which to 99% are “cis-men” that became women and NOT “cis-women” that became men) are strikingly simular in attitude and behaviour as to when neonazis in this country began to claim they felt bullied and herassed during the 90’s when they met resistance towards their hatemongering.

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  3. aformersexworker
    August 31, 2013

    Reblogged this on The Sex Work Brief and commented:
    A great piece on the hypocrisy of the abuse industry.

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  4. Pavs
    August 31, 2013

    Hello Jemima

    Just for the record, this is Pavs & I’d also comment openly, rather than hiding behind anonymity, if I had something to add.

    Just setting the record straight.

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    • jemima2013
      September 1, 2013

      No you just write blogs about me after you have told me to never contact you again…doesn’t this break that?

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    • Nun Ya (@Ishfery)
      September 1, 2013

      Glad to see you agree with the post

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  5. Onlooker
    August 31, 2013

    I’ve watched your twitter for a long time now, and it disturbs me that there are people as angry and bitter as yourself out there.

    Do you have any proof about these claims you make? I’ve never seen any one of your rants be backed up by evidence. You decide someone is against you, and what you “believe” in, and then off you go. You attack!

    The first week I started watching your twitter after someone linked you into a tweet you so violently attacked someone online that they deleted their account. That hasn’t been an isolated incident.

    I’m not a radfem. I’m not a Terf, I don’t care that you are a SW. But I do care that you are a bully, a gaslighter and that you are manipulative. You blame others for your own actions. You attack a radfem couple who were once your friends.

    You sit on twitter, spewing out your “opinion” on so called bullies, while if you looked in the mirror you’d see one of the biggest bullies staring straight back at you. Your hatred of anyone you decide is a “radfem” is disgraceful.

    You have, especially targeted the planets, with threats, vile abuse and hatred and it’s all based on your warped sense of being wronged. I have followed your sustained attack on them, watching both sides, and been revolted at your baseless claims of bullying.

    I think you are treading very close to the line of the malicious communications act, and unless you have proof of your claims, it would be wise to stop attacking both the planets and other radfems whose opinions you object to, or it will land you in court.

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    • aformersexworker
      September 1, 2013

      GOODNESS you really *CAN* make stuff up “Onlooker” can’t you?

      I know what bullies look like, and I know what Jem looks like and the two are distinctly different…

      But you are a different story…

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      • Onlooker
        September 1, 2013

        I make things up? Why would I bother doing that? As I said I received a tweet some time ago that Jem was linked in. I watched her twitter as I was interested in seeing the point of view of a SW.

        What I saw wasn’t that though. What I see is baseless attacks on many women, whose crimes are being “radfem” in Jem’s eyes.

        I have no axe to grind, no reason to make things up. I’m not a “radfem”, I have no problem with SW or trans people, or anyone else. I just watched from the sidelines.

        Jem regularly makes out that she’s the wronged party, but she attacks people regularly. Just look at her mentions on TL. These attacks aren’t isolated incidents.

        She claims that she was “outed” by radfems but the truth is she, herself, posted pictures on her work and private account that someone unrelated linked together.

        She then tried to blame others for her SH. SH is a personal choice (as a former SH, I know that, it’s easy to blame SH on others but it’s the harmer’s choice really).

        And if you want to claim I’m a bully for talking about my view on things then fine.

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        • jemima2013
          September 1, 2013

          You know an awful lot about police matters…I shall be letting them know. Oh and i have never sh or claimed too. This matters because ppl dear to me sh and i would never appropriate their feelings and experiences.

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    • Nun Ya (@Ishfery)
      September 1, 2013

      “Do you have any proof about these claims you make? I’ve never seen any one of your rants be backed up by evidence.”

      Do you have citations?

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    • Onlooker, I can’t relate any of the accusations you have made against jem with the person I know.

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      • aformersexworker
        September 1, 2013

        Me neither…I think it’s one of those RadFem/Rescue Industry “form rants” to the extent I could swear I have seen it a few times before here and there…but with the blanks filled in differently…but I can be sure.

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    • cartertheblogger
      September 1, 2013

      I don’t intervene here often, it at all, but I’m going to say a few things now that people would do well to read, and take account of.
      There is an ongoing criminal investigation into incidents of malicious communications towards Jem and other people associated with her; if anyone posting here knows anything about that they should email me, or Jem, and let us know how they came by the information. I’ve no intention of telling grown ups things they should already know, but if you know something about how a crime occurred you have a duty to tell the police. I don’t mind acting as a cut-out if I have to. If on the other hand you only know what someone else has told you then spare us the recycled gossip; dismissive sneering is not an attractive way to behave.
      If anyone discloses here any more of the details of the crimes against Jem than have already been disclosed here I’ll assume they have first hand knowledge of what went on and will forward all the data associated with their comments to the police. No second chances, no get out of jail free cards. If you’re just recycling gossip from your mates that may be inconvenient – I really don’t care. I really dislike spiteful gossips.

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  6. jennifer
    September 1, 2013

    Just adding my wholehearted agreement to the comment made by Onlooker, above. That is all.

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  7. Pegasus (@PegasusBug)
    September 1, 2013

    What a bullshit post this is. Seriously, can you try an analysis instead of your hurt feelings all the time? It’s embarrassing.

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    • jemima2013
      September 1, 2013

      Bug? Interesting name….

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    • Nun Ya (@Ishfery)
      September 1, 2013

      How many accounts are you running to ban evade nowadays?

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    • aformersexworker
      September 1, 2013

      Bug, have you ever considered taking a course in effective emotional abuse, because, frankly, this stuff is kindergarten level abysmal.

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  8. anonymous radical feminist
    September 1, 2013

    honestly do you realise how ridiculous and offensive this is?

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  9. umlolidunno (@umlolidunno)
    September 1, 2013

    Hitler’s preferred anti-semitic book is not equivalent to a woman following people you don’t like on Twitter.

    A woman following people you don’t like on Twitter is not a valid criticism of her feminist project.

    Get a grip.

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    • jemima2013
      September 1, 2013

      Bigotry is bigotry

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  10. jasminekhan2000
    September 1, 2013

    Jemima.
    I am increasingly concerned about your behaviour. You seem to act with such hatred and this is causing massive distress to the women that you target. That you would choose to expose the name of the woman you believed is a part of Misogyny Online, despite the campaign’s explicit desire for members to remain anonymous, is disgraceful.
    You recognise the need for anonymity, the damage that is caused when women are outed/doxxed. Yet you do this yourself. This is abusive. Women who are outed are at increased risk of abuse, harm and violence.
    I hope that someone who cares about you will help you to change your abusive behaviour. There are consequences for everybody. Alison is one in a long line of women whom you have targeted. There is one case of your harrassment where you are actually breaking the law. Please get some support before it is too late.

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    • jemima2013
      September 1, 2013

      She is on the official woman’s aid list of speakers, as the representative of misogony online. So how was this secret or are you accusing women’s aid of “outing” her also?
      I am intruiged by which law u think I have broken though.
      Classy gas lighting btw

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    • aformersexworker
      September 1, 2013

      Jasmine, I would be a great deal more concerned about the distress *ACTUAL MATERIAL DAMAGE* crap like “Misogyny Online” incites towards ordinary, decent, hardworking sex workers and our trans sisters.

      When you take it upon yourself to cause that degree of harm the world has every right to know you are to hold you to account for the blistering hypocrisy of it…

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  11. Bea Attitude
    September 1, 2013

    It is always interesting to see how people who claim to want to end violence against women fail to listen to sex workers, one of the most abused groups… and further that they so often and openly attack the very women they say they want to save.

    Rock on, Jem.

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  12. Lydia
    September 1, 2013

    And yet again, all I can think is how vile the whole world of feminism really is. Anyone dare disagree with or call one of them out then it turns into nastiness and false accusations. The Rad Fem movement keeps women in a place where men look on and roll their eyes at the silly little bitchy women.

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  13. eddiejc1
    September 1, 2013

    The only name I see mentioned in Jemima’s blog is that of Alison Boydell, who is publicly listed as the founder of Misogyny on-line. Boydell, by doing so, has abandoned any claim of anomynity. Yet more posters here are more upset at that, than on the attacks on trans women by Boydell and her supporters. It’s asinine to argue whether or not trans women are “real” women or not because what is more important is that they are human beings. Terfs are worse than swerfs because at least in theory, sex workers can change their occupations. Trans people cannot change who they are, no matter how much certain feminists would like them not to exist at all. As long as I exist, I am not going to let them get away with it.

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  15. Because everyone who is white is always rich, aren’t they? Pretty foolish to make assumptions about people purely based on their skin colour.

    I’ve also not seen a single hashtag or tweet on Twitter baying for the death/rape etc., of transwomen posted by ciswomen. I have seen transwomen frequently tweeting hashtags wishing ciswomen would #dieinafire, calling them scum, accusing them of being rapists, some of these tweets were sent to actual rape victims.

    I’m sorry, but it’s high time the trans community realised that posting hate speech about women will not be tolerated and challenging their disgusting tweets baying for our blood and expressing woefully bigoted and ignorant opinions about women is not transphobic.

    There are brave transwomen who are speaking out about the misogynistic and violent attitudes that some people in their community hold towards ciswomen and they receive abuse for it from other transwomen who try to silence them.

    It is sad to see so many women stabbing other women in the back to gain favour from a minority of people who have a disturbing and pathological hatred of biological women.

    This blog is yet another piss poor, one sided, attempt to demonize women who dare to speak out against the violent hate speech posted by transwomen.

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